tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post4865766560095895949..comments2024-03-26T06:07:35.453+01:00Comments on Kalinago English: Extrinsic "VS" or "AND" Intrinsic Motivation?KALINAGO ENGLISHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-5401779048930443032012-04-05T22:15:40.134+02:002012-04-05T22:15:40.134+02:00Hi Janet,
Thank you for joining in :). I agree a...Hi Janet,<br /><br />Thank you for joining in :). I agree and am so fascinated by the process of motivation or rather the psychology behind it all that this semester one of my video projects is on working on how to describe something called the Attribution Theory! More soon...KALINAGO ENGLISHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-22364208011548999612012-04-05T21:06:52.756+02:002012-04-05T21:06:52.756+02:00Hello. This is the first time I have been motivate...Hello. This is the first time I have been motivated to comment on a post, so well done! I teach adults near Barcelona and I am looking for help with pronunciation more than motivation but it is really interesting to read your comments on this. I find students' motivation levels and levels of frustration with things like pronunciation vary a lot. Also, they don't progress very quickly with only one class a week but I don't want to go away from student centred learning to become a vocabulary list memorising robot teacher like some other very popular rivals.Janet Aucklandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01170672349273618198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-15977470780792221832012-02-12T22:13:42.611+01:002012-02-12T22:13:42.611+01:00Great article! Research has proven when extrinsic...Great article! Research has proven when extrinsic motivation comes into play kids get introduced to activities where they are intrinsically pleased, which makes the extrinsic reward unnecessary. There are always kids who will seek the extrinsic reward for a certain activity and truly believe this is the only path to achieving it. I think it’s important to allow extrinsic and intrinsic motivation to work hand in hand that way when a child develops the behavior you would like him/her to do so it makes it easier to dissolve the external motivators and bring about the intrinsic motivation. It can be dangerous to reward kids extrinsically with the activities they enjoy intrinsically. For example, if a child is tutoring another child and someone comes along and offers rewards for doing the activity, they come to engage in the activity less.miss314https://www.blogger.com/profile/13935952193867250857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-24310317555424684222012-02-12T22:03:54.386+01:002012-02-12T22:03:54.386+01:00Great article! Research has proven when extrinsic...Great article! Research has proven when extrinsic motivation comes into play kids get introduced to activities where they are intrinsically pleased, which makes the extrinsic reward unnecessary. There are always kids who will seek the extrinsic reward for a certain activity and truly believe this is the only path to achieving it. I think it’s important to allow extrinsic and intrinsic motivation to work hand in hand that way when a child develops the behavior you would like him/her to do so it makes it easier to dissolve the external motivators and bring about the intrinsic motivation. It can be dangerous to reward kids extrinsically with the activities they enjoy intrinsically. For example, if a child is tutoring another child and someone comes along and offers rewards for doing the activity, they come to engage in the activity less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-88362231492471240292012-02-12T14:05:49.230+01:002012-02-12T14:05:49.230+01:00Richard, you're a genius. Am heading to the l...Richard, you're a genius. Am heading to the library to get this Bonny Norton book. Empowerment is an interesting precept, I think it extends beyond those in extraordinary circumstances but can be as much an issue for the German Businessman as the Russian housewife..<br /><br />More later, have to think this through.KALINAGO ENGLISHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-23232684862974773062012-02-12T14:03:28.768+01:002012-02-12T14:03:28.768+01:00Thanks, Anita. I think you're right - I'd...Thanks, Anita. I think you're right - I'd love to know more about your motivation to learn each of those languages.<br /><br /><br />Hi ya, Willy,<br />I could not agree more - I wonder if it's the human condition to label things in an attempt to understand them but of course, this leads only to our misunderstanding them...KALINAGO ENGLISHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-72371418923755844402012-02-09T11:36:19.232+01:002012-02-09T11:36:19.232+01:00Interesting post as always Karenne - I'm a hug...Interesting post as always Karenne - I'm a huge fan of Bonny Norton, who did a fascinating study of women migrants to Canada and their English language learning. She wrote all this up in a book 'identity and language learning' (2000). In her analysis she takes into account relations of power in regarding the women's positions as migrants, as women, as educated etc. In doing this she re-coins motivation in terms of what she calls 'investment'. What Norton points out is that people have the power to speak (and to be listened to) based on the opportunities they have to invest 'captial' (Bourdieu). So in other words for people who are disempowered for whatever reasons are less able to invest in langauge learning in this case. I believe this is why some learners may come across as being 'unmotivated' when really the issue is that they are disempowered. From this perspective then an objective of teachers is to empower learners, rather than to 'motivate'.<br /><br />Sorry to waffle - Bonny's work is well worth reading on your 'motivation' journey :)<br /><br />Best wishes<br />RichardRichard Gresswellhttp://www.eltbites.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-17006279926329985692012-02-07T13:02:49.775+01:002012-02-07T13:02:49.775+01:00Yes, we are missing out on the complexity of mainl...Yes, we are missing out on the complexity of mainly everything 'educational' we put our hands on, with the false belief that by freezing and atomizing stuff like motivation we will find a way to "fix it". In our field that applies to research methods and analyses and it trickles all the way down to classroom teaching, with a couple of completely unnecessary taxonomies in the middle.Willyhttp://authenticteaching.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-51824352627021506912012-02-06T15:50:52.696+01:002012-02-06T15:50:52.696+01:00I think we can - speaking from experience btw.
Ha...I think we can - speaking from experience btw. <br />Having learnt five foreign languages (English, Russian, Turkish, French and Spanish) I can clearly tell you that motivation is a very tricky thing.little_miss_bossyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09423142937875532976noreply@blogger.com