tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post5335546697648479826..comments2024-03-26T06:07:35.453+01:00Comments on Kalinago English: The Role of Pride in the Business English ClassroomKALINAGO ENGLISHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-84198143747788958442011-01-18T12:51:11.058+01:002011-01-18T12:51:11.058+01:00Oh, I can relate to that...What I did (and do some...Oh, I can relate to that...What I did (and do sometimes):<br />- Explain to SS that errors are very useful so we know where the problems are and fix them. When they are able to self-correct I tell them that they are soon-to-be experts :)<br />- Explain briefly how the human memory works and deletes even useful info and that happens to everyone ... and that the phenomenon can be even stronger for people who are bombarded with info every day (higher positions even more than lower ones) .... and emphasize the need for constant revision<br />- Use the local language for a short time - and there is enough room for improvement in this area for me - and show that even language teachers can face problems in learning a new language and there is nothing wrong with this...that perfecting a language takes time and patience, not only good memory or a strong will<br />- Make sure that I spend at least half of the break and around 5-10 minutes at the end of the lesson listening to my students talking about various current events in their language - so they have the opportunity to restore their self-esteem<br />- Sometimes I allow them to give an answer in their language first and then help them construct it in English<br /><br />Well...probably I do some things wrong cause I'm only in my second year working with adults but I try to be of help ...<br />I would like to know opinions of more experienced teachers on my ideas...<br /><br />Thank you for opening this topic !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-42810495603185784472010-02-08T11:23:24.503+01:002010-02-08T11:23:24.503+01:00Hee, hee Peter - those are classic mistakes!!!
...Hee, hee Peter - those are classic mistakes!!! <br /><br />I love sharing these types of stories too -but would also suggest a bit of caution, sometimes if we really think through some of the huge mistakes we've made in another language (I got myself into big trouble once with a you should that should have been a could you) - sometimes these stories can even frighten!!<br /><br />:-)<br />Efharisto<br /><br />Karenne<br />p.s. Thanks for my first Greek word!KALINAGO ENGLISHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-38314150014714846642010-02-08T11:14:38.337+01:002010-02-08T11:14:38.337+01:00Hi Karenne
You've mentioned my own favourite ...Hi Karenne<br /><br />You've mentioned my own favourite way of dealing with this: 'Are you, yourself, busy learning something new so that you can remind yourself often about what it feels like to be the ‘idiot’ in the room?'<br /><br />My own screw-ups with Greek whilst teaching in Athens were always useful anecdotes and hopefully went someway to helping students feel comfortable making mistakes:<br /><br />Screw-up 1) Saying 'Efharisto' (Thankyou) instead of 'Signomi' (Sorry) to a very elderly Greek woman when I trod on her toes attempting to get off the bus. <br /><br />Screw-up 2) Getting my pronouns totally wrong when asking a Greek couple for directions. Instead of pointing out my own limitations I informed them helpfully 'You don't speak Greek' <br /><br />... and probably lots more embarrasing moments I wasn't even aware of.<br />PetePeter Travishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06541792569803147960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-13832210800267469632010-02-08T10:21:14.058+01:002010-02-08T10:21:14.058+01:00I love it when an old post gets discovered! Than...I love it when an old post gets discovered! Thanks Vicki.<br /><br />I don't think of Pride as a negative (it can become arrogance) but yes, wanting to be known as the decent person we really are is very important.<br /><br />I had my first tears based on the BlendedLearning platform I am using the other day. The task had been to watch a video as if it were a meeting and to take notes as if the students were the minute takers of the meeting... Then all the students had to type (at the same time) their minutes and we'd check for <br /><br />-facts<br />-main points<br /><br />When we were checking through their minutes, it looked like one student had forgot to "save" hers. <br /><br />But at the end of class, when everyone had left she came up to talk to me - it turned out that actually she simply couldn't do the task. <br /><br />She was in tears: she is the one junior person in the class, the secretary, whose job it is to often take the minutes - the rest of the class include her boss.<br /><br />We talked it through - I asked her if the video was too difficult for her, she said no. She said she was so sure that she was going to do a bad job and that everyone was going to see her do a bad job, that she couldn't concentrate on anything happening on the screen.<br /><br />Anyway, that was a bit of a long story, the point being that even though I know this so well, that we must pay attention to issues like self-worth in the classroom, sometimes we set up activities that can lead to tears! <br /><br />If and only if our students are comfortable with us, do you even get the chance to recognize and discuss the issue and try to make amends!!<br /><br />(I got her to redo the exercise in the privacy of her own home where she could stop and start the video at her leisure, the aim of the lesson being concentrated listening).<br /><br />KarenneKALINAGO ENGLISHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15202016406865561740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-91228439436467826232010-02-08T06:44:47.246+01:002010-02-08T06:44:47.246+01:00One thing I forgot to say - I don't think it&#...One thing I forgot to say - I don't think it's just 'pride'. When we learn another language we very understandably want to come across as intelligent and articulate if we are, but also as a decent and likeable sort of person. Perhaps that's pride but it's also about being worthy of time, attention and respect - and just being someone other folks might want to know and connect with.vicki holletthttp://www.vickihollett.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-91102971163333417972010-02-08T06:36:48.926+01:002010-02-08T06:36:48.926+01:00Oh yeah! Great post! I can think of lots of my stu...Oh yeah! Great post! I can think of lots of my students who would identify with the views here. <br />My heart goes out to them - highly intelligent and articulate human beings in one language and they have to go back to basics and become limited in another - how frustrating is that?<br />I think we have to apply all the skills and experience we can to the task - so what we think is going to help them achieve the biggest bang for their buck in terms of effort soonest.Vicki Holletthttp://www.vickihollett.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8572501698854836939.post-90583062281938383272009-04-06T15:04:00.000+02:002009-04-06T15:04:00.000+02:00I work as the DOS for an English department in Ger...I work as the DOS for an English department in Germany and completely agree with the above - I see this problem in many of the business people I interview pre-course, especially men 30-60 who have achieved a high position, and whilst used to challenging jobs, are not used to feeling completely inadequate and misunderstood, sometimes powerless and frustrated. They may even be at a high level in English and still feel this way. I have had teachers say "his English is really good, what can I teach him?" forgetting that the stakes are really high for this student and that good is not good enough. Motivating these students is quite a challenge - we need to acknowledge that they do have real problems, that not everyone out there is understanding and patient, but at the same time convince them to use the language skills they have with confidence, despite the mistakes! (may need to be good actors!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com